Published date: 18 August 2022
Meet Márcia Pereira, former Development Lead (Technology Services) at NHS Property Services
Márcia Pereira worked as the Development lead at NHS Property Services as head of the development and testing teams and spoke to WeAreTechWomen about her career journey, the challenges she has faced and why women in technology should always push for more.
I’m originally from Portugal and moved to England to be with my husband. I have been in IT for over 20 years. I was lucky to have a father who was an engineer, he didn’t care about whether it was right or wrong for girls, or boys, to be doing “techy” things, and so encouraged me from a young age. I started coding when I was 12 and have always been playing with computers and been interested in technology.
I studied English and Portuguese Literature at university and I graduated right when the internet boom was starting, so I decided to make my hobby (which was coding and computers) my career path, and make literature my hobby instead, as I realised there were more career opportunities in this field. I started as a web developer and worked for a big American company called Unisys in Portugal. This was a fantastic opportunity as the company offered a lot of technical training and opportunities to grow.
When I moved to England, I became full stack data developer in financial services. Then I got the opportunity with NHS Property Services (NHSPS) to lead the data team. NHSPS is a government-owned company that brings property and facilities management expertise to thousands of sites across the NHS estate. Our portfolio consists of 3,500 properties which represents around 10% of the entire NHS estate. Most of our sites are used for clinical, local healthcare, such as GP surgeries, health centres and hospitals/hospital-related properties.
I joined six months before COVID-19 hit. I felt it was quite good timing as I got to understand how all the systems worked before the pandemic struck. During that time, we saw a huge demand for data and web development, and so took the opportunity to bring that work in house. The greatest achievement during this time was developing our COVID-19 reporting app, which we developed from proof of concept all the way to it going live in just three days! I did the database myself and worked with NHSPS Power Apps CoE and one of NHSPS Solutions Architect to build this. This app helped support over 5,000 frontline staff – from receptionists, cleaners and security staff to help the NHS tackle the pandemic.
I didn’t sit there and think that in 10 years’ time I’m going to be at a certain point. I’m very lucky to have had strong female role models. When I joined Unisys, the deputy CTO for the main project was a woman. My team lead was also a woman. Having women in higher roles to look up to and draw inspiration from really helped pave my career path. I also take a lot of inspiration from the online community. The great thing about what I do is being connected to this wider community where you always come across people who inspire you and encourage you to take the next step. So while I don’t sit there and plot every single step out, I do think about what my immediate next step is, what I need to do to achieve that, then decide from there what the following action is.
As I said earlier, I had great role models to look up to throughout my career path. Also, the programmer community has a very strong culture of giving and sharing and so in many ways I have never been made to feel like I didn’t belong in this community because I’m a woman. However, I have faced challenges along the way. When I started out, there weren’t a lot of women working in tech. I have also worked in very male-dominated settings, and faced issues such as gender pay gap and workplace bullying.
That would be implementing an entire software function delivery at NHSPS. When I joined, we only had a data team. The philosophy before was always to outsource the work, but because we brought value and team expertise and we were able to prove to the business that we could do it in-house. This means that we can deliver things faster, systems are better fitted to our requirements, and we can react to issues or changes faster. We also did all of this while going through a global pandemic!
Being angry. I have several female friends in academia or researchers and we all said that our biggest mistake in our early 20s was believing our mothers had won the battle because we had so much more freedom and rights compared to them. Even though our careers worked out better than most, career paths for women generally have not moved as much as it should have. It’s not enough to just settle for things, or accept things because of the status quo, we should always be looking for the next challenge.
It does depend on the industry you work in as some are more progressive than others. Generally, we are still seeing men dominating management and leadership roles. This is because men will just go for jobs, while women can still be insecure in comparison when it comes to applying for job roles because they feel they don’t fulfil all the criteria. I’m quite lucky that NHSPS is an inclusive organisation – I just joined the Women in NHSPS Committee, and our CIO is a woman.
What I feel would help should start at the recruitment stage – in my previous experience I always find equality can be achieved if an equal number of CVs from men and women are presented when it comes to narrowing down candidates – no matter how many people applied. So for instance if 100 men but only four women applied for the job, you should still put forward two CVs each so there is a balance.
I would go back in time and change all the “women can’t do this” rules – create the same starting point for women as men, starting with education. I think education is so important, so if I could do one thing I would give every single woman on the planet a good education.
This interview was first published by WeAreTechWomen in August